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Re: Increasing pixels

Postby ALwin on Mon Aug 29, 2011 9:54 pm

Chris Humphreys wrote:Oh and changing an image from 8-bit to 16-bit is even more pointless, bloomin daft stock agency standards if you ask me....


Though I agree with this, I think switching from 8 to 16 is a better option than unscaling an image and losing potential image quality, though of course if the upscaling was minor it wouldn't be noticeable. But to get from 28MB to 50MB just by upscaling might mean doubling the image size or more where the loss of quality can become more noticeable.

Also Chris, with your D700, are you shooting 14-bit RAW or 12? And saving as Compressed Lossless or Compressed?

"bloomin daft stock agency standards" too true
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Re: Increasing pixels

Postby Chris Humphreys on Mon Aug 29, 2011 10:07 pm

14-bit lossless RAW. Tiffs saved uncompressed.

You're right about 8-16 bit affecting image quality less. I just can't get my head around the point of this. I could upscale an iphone pic to 50mb, it isn't going to make it a better quality photograph... :roll:
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Re: Increasing pixels

Postby Outafocus on Mon Sep 12, 2011 3:12 am

Chris - You inadvertantly touched on a question I have had for months and no one could answer it on the other forums. When I process 16MB RAW files from my Sony A580 in the Sony RAW converter and send them to PhotoShop 7.0 as a .tiff file, they arrive as a 90+ MB file. It's hard to imagine why they increase in size so much but, you say this is normal? The only way I have found to get around this is to convert to .jpg files, send them to PS, and then save them as a .tiff file. Somehow I feel I'm doing something wrong here. Can you please explain?
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Re: Increasing pixels

Postby ALwin on Mon Sep 12, 2011 7:25 am

Outafocus wrote:Chris - You inadvertantly touched on a question I have had for months and no one could answer it on the other forums. When I process 16MB RAW files from my Sony A580 in the Sony RAW converter and send them to PhotoShop 7.0 as a .tiff file, they arrive as a 90+ MB file. It's hard to imagine why they increase in size so much but, you say this is normal? The only way I have found to get around this is to convert to .jpg files, send them to PS, and then save them as a .tiff file. Somehow I feel I'm doing something wrong here. Can you please explain?


1) Check whether you are sending them as 8-bit or 16-bit to PS. Normally Nikon, Canon, Sony, etc cameras capture RAW images at 12-bit depth, some higher end cameras can capture images at 14-bit depth. However in software such as Photoshop they only use 8, 16 or 32-bits. So you have a choice, when you work with RAW files, 'convert' them to 8-bit potentially losing some tiny bits of information (not really noticeable to the naked eye) or work as 16-bit files (bloating the filesize a bit) but potentially gaining the ability to work with a wider colorspace/details (Adobe RGB, ProPhoto).

2) I wouldn't really worry about the TIFF filesize unless the computer wasn't powerful enough to handle it, which isn't the case with most computers these days.

3) One thing however I wouldn't do: convert to jpg files for editing. To me, jpg files must only exist as the final output (if I need to send the images to someone) at the end of my workflow.
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